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BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS, jet lag and no days off in between, it’s a miracle that Awsten Knight isn’t face down in a pile of pillows. For the previous two weeks, Knight and his band Waterparks have been head down in a run of huge exhibits all through the U.Okay. supporting British rockers You Me At Six in addition to a sequence of intimate appearances at document shops with among the band’s most die-hard followers. It was a landmark run for a bunch who’ve hit the street relentlessly the previous year-and-a-half, with sold-out North American and European headlining excursions, a prime slot on the 2022 Unhappy Summer time Competition and even a “bucket record” opening slot for My Chemical Romance. Their newest milestone? They performed to 10,000 folks — their largest present within the U.Okay. area — at London’s historic Alexandra Palace. Exhaustion ought to be Knight’s baseline, however as a substitute, he’s as chipper as ever when he hops on Zoom again dwelling in Los Angeles. There’s just one downside. The bandleader has been on vocal relaxation for days main as much as this very interview.
“Dude, my voice feels so shot,” Knight confesses from his lounge sofa. “We did 12 performances again to again, then mixed with actually quick cut-up sleep on the flight, I simply really feel, ugh.” Sleep deprivation apart, Knight is sort of puzzled (not from the vocal relaxation) however as a result of the experimental pop trio he shaped 12 years in the past have unlocked one other degree of fandom the place new listeners are nonetheless flocking by the droves. “It turns on the market are lots of people [in this world],” Knight quips, referring to his newfound followers. However in actuality, international domination doesn’t actually appear too far off.
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Knight barely has time to decelerate. The band are set to launch their fifth studio album, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (out April 14 by way of Fueled By Ramen). However the self-professed workaholic has by no means recognized some other means. “It’s a extremely arduous mentality to shake,” Knight reveals. “After we had been a neighborhood band, we didn’t have any household connections within the music business, and nobody cared, so that you needed to tackle each position. Regardless that we aren’t native anymore and get to play arenas with our favourite bands, if I’m not actively doing stuff to push the music, then I don’t know if anybody else will.”
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In some methods, Knight fears downtime or stillness as a result of that’s when he seems like his mind will begin to activate him. He admittedly capabilities higher when he’s engaged on one thing inventive, whether or not that’s writing a brand new music or just designing streetwear for his clothes model hii-def. “It’s not essentially essentially the most wholesome factor in the long term, however folks have worse coping mechanisms,” he laughs nervously.
However Waterparks stay his principal focus. The trio, which initially shaped in 2011, started to actually put the items collectively the next 12 months when Knight enlisted his now-best buddies, guitarist Geoff Wigington and drummer Otto Wooden, to spherical out the lineup. “Otto cherished basic rock and bands like La Dispute and Touché Amoré, whereas Geoff was all about EDM,” Knight remembers. “All of us had totally different tastes, however on the core of it, it’s guitar and drums.” Their particular person musical backgrounds helped craft the genre-less sound they’ve now cultivated.
It wasn’t till 2016 when Waterparks lastly launched their debut album, Double Dare — an intentional alternative. “I at all times felt like if nobody was us, why put out a big physique of labor? I needed to do cool shit versus oversaturating and ready till sufficient folks [actually] needed to listen to it.” There’s a frequent adage that you’ve your total life to put in writing your first document and 6 months to put in writing your second, to which Knight agrees, and from there, the band started making information like clockwork.
With these albums got here fastidiously curated eras — a second in time with a transparent aesthetic, theme and general mission assertion. Whereas at all times writing music from a subversive and experimental perspective, it was when the band launched each FANDOM (2019) and Biggest Hits (2021) that they started to stray from the confinement of style and inaccurate labels. Knight himself spoke out vehemently about being boxed in by the time period “pop punk. “I realized [during that time that] you may’t management everyone, and you may solely body the narrative a lot,” Knight explains. “Clearly, we grew up loving and nonetheless loving blink-182, Inexperienced Day, Sum 41 and Good Charlotte, so it’s in our DNA to a level, however I simply don’t need that label as a result of it’s so synonymous with the previous and what cynical dickheads or mega naysayers say is only for preteens and children. Nevertheless, the largest cause I didn’t need that label is that I do know [exactly] what we’re able to and what our output is.”
[Alternative Press spring 2023 issue with cover stars Waterparks, shot by Jawn Rocha]
Take, for instance, the breakbeat insanity of the FANDOM single “Turbulent” or the distorted experimentation of “Numb” from Biggest Hits. Nothing is off the desk for Waterparks. The group be a part of a cohort of different trailblazing acts like Convey Me the Horizon and Paramore, who each efficiently pivoted away from the late Warped Tour circuit in favor of mainstream attraction with out dropping any substance. “There’s a music for everyone, and I as soon as tweeted that anybody who doesn’t like Waterparks simply doesn’t like Waterparks but,” Knight says confidently.
In case you have but to be on board with the band’s music, you’ve on the very least been entertained by — or seen — Knight’s fiery social media presence. It’s simple that Waterparks’ meteoric rise has stemmed from the bandleader’s unofficial facet hustle as a social media celeb. And at instances, his on-line presence can really feel really monolithic in scale, one thing Knight has tried to research through the years in lots of songs, together with the aptly titled “You’d Be Paranoid Too (If Everybody Was Out To Get You).” When requested if his standing as a particularly on-line determine has influenced the band’s newest album, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, Knight isn’t completely certain however reveals that he has needed to set boundaries nonetheless, as somebody who’s repeatedly met with fixed reward and cruel web trolls. “I attempt to not let it affect issues an excessive amount of [lately], and with remedy, I’ve realized that you would be able to solely management your self. Nevertheless, that doesn’t imply I’m not nonetheless weak within the music that I write.”
He tackles the topic on INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY with nearer “A NIGHT OUT ON EARTH” and components of the music “RITUAL,” the place he remembers when he felt issues had been “caving in” round him as a result of pressures of fixed consideration. “There are individuals who take heed to Waterparks who aren’t on Twitter, after which there are those that view the band on this bubble the place it’s simply them and the individuals who reply to the tweets,” Knight resigns.
However past the subject of social media, Knight will get admittedly “introspective” on the document. When requested to debate the general lyrical themes and ideas behind INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, he takes a deep breath and delivers a warning: Issues may get just a little turbulent.
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“There’s a love story all through the document that’s expressive to and for different folks, however the album itself has to do with overcoming, unlearning and rising previous spiritual guilt,” Knight explains. “It’s one thing that I’ve struggled with for a very long time.” On “FUNERAL GREY,” he delivers the punchy line “baptized in my spit,” which is a playful twist on a weighted topic. The theme of non secular guilt doesn’t simply apply to the general lyrics of the document but additionally extends to the album’s hanging cowl artwork, which at first look seems to be a picture of a blue frog over a purple backdrop; actually, it possesses a way more poignant which means.
“Frogs have at all times been one in all my favourite animals,” Knight displays. “Nevertheless, after I realized that frogs had been seen as soiled and unclean in a biblical context, it was fascinating to me that one thing that I noticed as so good, pure and exquisite is also seen as a foul factor by way of a biblical lens.” In different phrases, the idea of disgrace plagued the charismatic bandleader for so long as he can keep in mind, and INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY was the second for Knight to lastly face his trauma head-on and “come to phrases with himself” as soon as and for all. That explains why a majority of the brand new songs possess “hypersexualized” power — a acutely aware revolt in opposition to a conservative previous. “Rising up in church, you’re taught that every thing is so incorrect and dangerous. I at all times felt like shit, so [this album] is the breakaway from that particularly.”
By overcoming his spiritual guilt, Knight was capable of faucet into an developed sense of self-worth that he’s since utilized to his very personal love life, which he particulars on the album’s stripped-down ballad “CLOSER.” “My idea of affection has modified all through the years, and that music is about [looking at the past] and realizing that after I was youthful, it was possibly extra of an obsession. Now I’m taking it aside and studying extra about love and the way in which I current the present model of myself to different folks.” Inversely, there may be the alt-radio-ready anthem “BRAINWASHED,” the place Knight admits that he nonetheless wrestles with the thought of real love, always ensuring that he’s not simply wrapped up within the “honeymoon part.” Knight jokes that this observe and “FUCK ABOUT IT,” which contains a visitor vocal spot from blackbear, are “polar opposites,” because the latter couldn’t be farther from the “hyperfixation” he particulars in “BRAINWASHED,” as soon as once more proving that he feels essentially the most comfy when inserting juxtaposition wherever he can.
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Past the emotional readability that Knight gained throughout the creation of INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, it’s the album’s sonic dangers and exploration that he’s essentially the most fired up about. Although Knight needed the band to return to their extra guitar-driven and natural roots for sure components of the LP, a lot of the document ventures into eclectic territory, with hyperpop, lure, synthwave and even delicate components of arduous rock and nü steel. “‘RITUAL,’ ‘A NIGHT OUT ON EARTH,’ ‘REAL SUPER DARK’ and ‘ST*RFUCKER’ are the craziest instrumentals we have now accomplished ever,” Knight exclaims. “I really like the thought of taking one thing like a guitar or my voice and making it sound completely like one thing else.” “A NIGHT OUT ON EARTH,” nevertheless, is what Knight describes as “the largest manufacturing flex,” and it most undoubtedly exhibits. “There’s fucking elephant sounds in there and peculiar Batman villain-sounding horns — it’s evil and heavy, and to not point out, the outro is simply sport over,” he says.
Past manufacturing, Knight pushes his voice and stretches the thought of what constitutes a powerful hook on INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. With “END OF THE WATER (FEEL),” Knight is at his most “bombastic,” in a “cartoon-like” state, weaving falsetto melodies that are supposed to shock. “I at all times make a psychological observe after I hear a music that makes me go…” He pauses, imitating an explosion. “For me, that’s after I hear some high-ass vocals that I’m not anticipating.” Even on the primary day of demoing “END OF THE WATER (FEEL)” in his dwelling studio, Knight was already so assured within the music that he known as longtime producer and collaborator Zakk Cervini and “basically” compelled him to return over to his home proper then to assist end it. “I additionally need the document to point out that I had a mustache [during this time], too,” Knight laughs.
With collaboration on the mind, Knight is the primary to confess that for a few years, he was valuable about his artwork and was hesitant to work with others. Nevertheless, throughout the COVID-19 pandemic and quarantine, Knight modified his thoughts, which was evident on Waterparks’ earlier album, Biggest Hits. This time round, Knight, who’s an outspoken fan of the U.Okay. boy band One Route, lastly bought an opportunity to stay out one in all his desires by working with esteemed songwriter Julian Bunetta, who co-wrote beloved One Route classics like “Olivia,” “Infinity” and “Finest Tune Ever,” amongst others. “I flew to [Julian’s] place in Nashville, and we ended up making 5 songs collectively, two of them being ‘FUNERAL GREY’ and ‘BRAINWASHED,’” Knight remembers. And whereas he nonetheless plans to maintain nearly all of his music near his chest long run, he received’t rule something out. Knight would undoubtedly bounce on the likelihood to work with everybody from Submit Malone and Damon Albarn to Donald Glover and Toby Keith.
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NOW, WITH THE BAND’S NEW LP INCOMING, there raises the query: Does Knight really feel a way of aid after each exorcising his deepest traumas and welcoming listeners on his journey to self-discovery? “I nonetheless really feel stress with it,” Knight concedes. “It could be loads simpler if solely strangers heard this, however everybody in my complete fucking life goes to listen to this album, in order that’s what makes it unusual.” However he’s by no means let any awkwardness or controversy hinder the inventive output. “I wasn’t not in bother after I put out a music like [2018’s] ‘TANTRUM’ the place I listed a bunch of dudes I needed to kill, calling out by title,” Knight acknowledges. Although his lyrical decisions have generally resulted in robust reactions, even inside his shut circle of buddies, Knight can’t assist however settle for that he’s meant to be unapologetic. “On the finish of the day, I’d fairly make the best fucking factor, fairly than maintain again and make one thing that wasn’t that good.”
Pressures of lyrical vulnerability and transparency apart, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY is Knight’s try and “normalize” the catharsis he finds inside songwriting, which ties into the album title itself. “Mental property is the psychological area you give to one thing in your head. The ‘property’ often is the factor that you’re fighting. By materializing it and giving it its personal world, it’s truly an effective way to precise it after which, finally, expel it,” he explains. “I need this album to go to the fucking moon.”
